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Lews · Jul 06, 2005, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Air ele is boring, and so are rangers. So my guild decided to resserect the good ol' fire days! We got all the way to HoH, without really trying, and killed every team we ran into in seconds. Then in HoH, 2 of our 3 monks went afk. =( But it was so beutiful to kill the air, smite, and ranger teams, and everyone else. :P

Vwoss · Jul 06, 2005, 07:14 AM // 07:14

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Originally Posted by Lews

Air ele is boring, and so are rangers. So my guild decided to resserect the good ol' fire days! We got all the way to HoH, without really trying, and killed every team we ran into in seconds. Then in HoH, 2 of our 3 monks went afk. =( But it was so beutiful to kill the air, smite, and ranger teams, and everyone else. :P

Amen to that. Is it the fragility mark build?

goldfinger · Jul 06, 2005, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by dbgtboy

nature renewal is only for enchantments, i am a healing monk and i rarely use enchantments because they are so easy to get rid of, so that nature ritual is useless on me, the only enchantment skill i have is healing seed.

pah, are you kidding me? Every disenchant has the LONGEST recoil of all time. Unless you pack yourself with disenchants (rend, strip, and shatter) you are only good for one, unless you rend but then you take a hoofing yourself.

Itbegins · Jul 06, 2005, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Air ele's are so ez i wish that aNet would take of the oppenent skill usage you see or put it so its only pve cause as soon as i see that air atune or light orb i take out my power block and other mesmer goodies for them Cry

Divinitys Creature · Jul 06, 2005, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Play to win

Calnaion Blackhawk · Jul 06, 2005, 10:45 AM // 10:45

omg, aeromancers, thats all i see in arenas nowadays, what has happened to the world, RANGERS WILL BE NEXT, just you wait.... just your waaaiiittt!

Schorny · Jul 06, 2005, 11:35 AM // 11:35

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Originally Posted by Itbegins

Air ele's are so ez i wish that aNet would take of the oppenent skill usage you see or put it so its only pve cause as soon as i see that air atune or light orb i take out my power block and other mesmer goodies for them Cry

And you alone shut down an air spike team, congratulation.

Why is everyone so mad at air spike teams? It is not easy to coordinate it right, of course it is also not terrible hard. But you need an organised team for air spikes to be good.

A spirit team needs less coordination, you need to fix your tactic before the battle start. So it is also not really hard to play a spirit team.

Trapper are harder to play, you need coordination (like the air spikes). What about the 8 W/Mo Builds? Also only a little coordination is enough.

And for shutting down a build: every build can be easily shut down by the right counter build - but you can't take all counter-builds with you, so you need a balanced team to fight all different builds...

I agree that there are too many aeromancers out there, so I'm considering switching to earth instead, but aeromancer isn't a bad class. Or do we whine because we got tired of whining about W/Mo?

smgzor · Jul 06, 2005, 12:01 PM // 12:01

I don't think you can really call air eles "noobs" yes there are a lot of air ele, however there are some insanely good air eles out there. Our guild was formed using air ele before all the counters to air were out there, and i can say that some of the eles in our guild are some of the most talented air eles i've seen in GW. It's not really just the lightning spells it's other things as well such as figuring out when to use interrupts and such that make them so talented. A lot of the classes in the game consist of pressing T, 1, 2, 3, or whatever skills you have, but there are also special skills for every class that take a little more talent to use.

Anyway... back to my original point, not all air ele are noob just because a lot of people play them. A lot of people play ranger poorly but i have really gotten owned by some people who know how to play a good ranger build. Most of the "spirit spam" builds don't work because they are just newbies who don't even know how spirits work. I've actually had a group come into halls and put fertile seasons down for my team while we were holding the altar. It's the same for air eles. I'll put spellbreaker on the target, and have had the team stay on the target for the whole duration of spellbreaker and just keep trying to cast on it. Each class can be used effectively if you have skilled players using it.

IxChel · Jul 06, 2005, 12:44 PM // 12:44

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Mumblyfish · Jul 06, 2005, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by Schorny

A spirit team needs less coordination, you need to fix your tactic before the battle start. So it is also not really hard to play a spirit team.

Not so. Assuming you've got one Ranger primary knocking out Spirits, you're effectively down to seven players. If you hope to actually achieve anything, like killing people, you need to work well with your team and have a solid build, since you're effectively down one healer/damage dealer.

Schorny · Jul 06, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by Mumblyfish

Not so. Assuming you've got one Ranger primary knocking out Spirits, you're effectively down to seven players. If you hope to actually achieve anything, like killing people, you need to work well with your team and have a solid build, since you're effectively down one healer/damage dealer.

You really haven't understand my post. Please read it again. It is not about spirit-builds, it does not say 'every noob can win with a spirit team' or 'spirit teams are boring' in fact: it doesn't say anything about spirit teams, all it says is that in a certain light every build is 'easy'. But all of you should know that there is no 'easy way to win'.

Lews · Jul 06, 2005, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Vwoss

Amen to that. Is it the fragility mark build?

Fevered Dreams + fragility =)

Lord Malikai · Jul 07, 2005, 10:46 AM // 10:46

I like playing my Water Elementalists in random arenas. I tried the lightning build but overall, water had more effect as well as survivability in longer duels. I can see where an Air build is better for an organized team battle but for random arenas, it's water all the way. And to say... Water Trident with 16 in WM can actually spam out some pretty impressive damage, as well as knocking them down when they decide to run for it.

Water Magic - 12+1+3 = 16
Energy Storage - 12+1

Glyph of Elemental Power
Res Signet
Conjure Frost
Water Attunement
Water Trident {E}
Ice Prison
Deep Freeze
Armor of Mist

Basically, I start off by glyph elem, then conjure (always conjure first). Then glyph elem again to get water attunement. Then both glyph again when the first mob of enemies come in. Hit them with Deep Freeze. Then cast Ice Prison on main target. From there, spam Water Trident. If a warrior gets close, hit him with Ice Prison (when it recharges), then hit Armor of Mist, run away, turn and smack him down with water tridents as he gets up, follows, falls down, gets up, follows, falls down :P It's kinda funny. Armor of Mist and Ice Prison are great ways to put some space between yourself and a nasty warrior. I've found Water Elementalists are great for protecting your monk.

DarkAynjil · Jul 07, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

I like playing my Water Elementalists in random arenas. I tried the lightning build but overall, water had more effect as well as survivability in longer duels. I can see where an Air build is better for an organized team battle but for random arenas, it's water all the way. And to say... Water Trident with 16 in WM can actually spam out some pretty impressive damage, as well as knocking them down when they decide to run for it.

Water Magic - 12+1+3 = 16
Energy Storage - 12+1

Glyph of Elemental Power
Res Signet
Conjure Frost
Water Attunement
Water Trident {E}
Ice Prison
Deep Freeze
Armor of Mist

Basically, I start off by glyph elem, then conjure (always conjure first). Then glyph elem again to get water attunement. Then both glyph again when the first mob of enemies come in. Hit them with Deep Freeze. Then cast Ice Prison on main target. From there, spam Water Trident. If a warrior gets close, hit him with Ice Prison (when it recharges), then hit Armor of Mist, run away, turn and smack him down with water tridents as he gets up, follows, falls down, gets up, follows, falls down :P It's kinda funny. Armor of Mist and Ice Prison are great ways to put some space between yourself and a nasty warrior. I've found Water Elementalists are great for protecting your monk.

Have you tried Ward against Harm yet? PM me with your results, as I am bored with air and have moved on to Earth, but ran outta skill points before I could unlock Water spells....